4,000,000 @ Auschwitz

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Derby Daily Telegraph – Wednesday 16th April 1947

 

I know it is a well covered topic by revisionists but here is just my little contribution. Whenever you look up or question the Holocaust the inevitable figure of Six Million Jews arises. We are lead to believe this figure was arrived at from evidence during the Nuremberg Trials. This newspaper article gives numbers of victims that were allegedly gassed at Auschwitz, ie 4,000,000. The plaque below stood at Auschwitz until 1990.

They were later replaced in 1995 with 20 metal plaques in various major languages bearing the inscription.

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“For ever let this place be a cry of despair and a warning to humanity, where the Nazis murdered about one and a half million men, women, and children, mainly Jews from various countries of Europe. Auschwitz-Birkenau 1940 – 1945”

Notice now the main emphasis is on the suffering of Jews and the figure has dropped from “Four Million” to “About one and a half million”. So with a drop of perhaps One million Jews from the original Nuremberg Trials figure why is it still Six Million Jews?

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From a Facebook post Jan 28th 2017

Here is a link to a site that I believe is supposed to be a counter argument and I think tries to imply anyone pointing the discrepancy out is deceitful.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/denial-of-science/four-million-01.html

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17 thoughts on “4,000,000 @ Auschwitz

      1. I’ve read a few books, watched a few videos and generally observed the media narrative around this issue. Also sought opinions from friends, family and anyone who brings the topic up.

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      2. “No offence taken and I see your point. Equally I would not want to learn history from say just History Channel documentaries. A breadth of sources is best.”

        What books have you read on this subject?

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      3. Thus far, Dissecting the Holocaust -G.Rudolf, The Giant with Feet of Clay – Jurgen Graf, The Gas Vans , Breaking the Spell – N Kollerstrom and various sections of the other books in the series.

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      4. “Thus far, Dissecting the Holocaust -G.Rudolf, The Giant with Feet of Clay – Jurgen Graf, The Gas Vans , Breaking the Spell – N Kollerstrom and various sections of the other books in the series.”

        I’ve read the Giant with Feet of Clay, the one on Sobibor, A Judge Looks at the Evidence and another one that escapes me.

        But, you haven’t read any actual books on the Holocaust?

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    1. Perhaps again, it’s my inability to accurately express in writing my central point/message. The Hoess piece and the YouTube vid were just the starting point for me. They raised questions that I’d never considered before. You may have me wrong, I didn’t say that I was “convinced” that mass murder didn’t happen. I just now don’t believe that there were any “gas chambers disguised as showers” or that there was any bureaucratic, systemic plan of annihilation.
      No offence, but I must admit that I’m skeptical of your skeptisim . As a skeptic surely you must have questioned some of the ridiculous claims such as the murder and disposal of 20,000 people per day at Auschwitz, the incredible cremation times, the vast amount of fuel and costs to transport people to killing centres then just willy-nilly select who was going to live or die at the flick of a glove. Leaving it up to individual concentration camp commanders to decide upon the best methods of mass execution (as alluded to in the Hoess testimony)??? Pfft sorry but it just beggers belief
      Respectfully I’ll have to decline your offer. I have far too much on my plate at the mo and can’t dedicate the time to a trench warfare of words.
      Also do you believe that it is necessary to imprison people who don’t believe in Nazi gas chambers?

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    2. “Perhaps again, it’s my inability to accurately express in writing my central point/message. The Hoess piece and the YouTube vid were just the starting point for me. They raised questions that I’d never considered before. You may have me wrong, I didn’t say that I was “convinced” that mass murder didn’t happen. I just now don’t believe that there were any “gas chambers disguised as showers” or that there was any bureaucratic, systemic plan of annihilation.”

      Do you know about the T-4 Program? Or the 14f13 Program? What about Operation Tannenburg? These were all systematic plans of annhilation of various groups that were not Jews.
      As for gas chambers disguised as showers, do you understand that only about 2.5 million Jews died this way? That over a million more died at the hands of the Einsatzgruppen or their proxies? Or the conditions of the camps and the ghettos that led to perhaps another 1.5 million deaths?
      I’m not sure that you really understand the history of the subject you are trying to debunk. You are diving headfirst into something really vast with two hands tied behind your back. The Holocaust Handbooks only scratch the surface, they do not address the conditions that led to the actions they are trying to debunk.
      Someone once told me that Holocaust denial only attacks the symbols of destruction, like gas chambers or Anne Frank’s Diary. It cannot attack anything real because anyone who takes the time to study it realizes that the conclusions are false.

      “No offence, but I must admit that I’m skeptical of your skeptisim . As a skeptic surely you must have questioned some of the ridiculous claims such as the murder and disposal of 20,000 people per day at Auschwitz, the incredible cremation times, the vast amount of fuel and costs to transport people to killing centres then just willy-nilly select who was going to live or die at the flick of a glove.”

      Cremation times are based upon Krema capacity, however, at the height of the killing at Birkenau, the SS resorted to open air burnings to destroy excess corpses.

      As for why, I’m assuming you are talking about the Hungarian Action in the Summer of 1944. The Reich considered the Jews a valuable source of labor but only the ones who could work. The rest were “useless mouths” that were a burden and not a resource.

      As for transporting large amounts of people to killing centers, the reality is that most Jews died fairly close to home. The Einsatzgruppen (and their proxies) shot local Jews, the Reinhard Camps murdered mostly local Polish Jews and Birkenau is fairly close to Hungary.
      Ask yourself this:
      If the concern is cost and transportation, then why do deniers insist that the Reinhard Camps and Chelmno were transit camps? Isn’t it costly to transport millions of Jews into the USSR? Doesn’t that take up a lot of transportation?

      “Leaving it up to individual concentration camp commanders to decide upon the best methods of mass execution (as alluded to in the Hoess testimony)??? Pfft sorry but it just beggers belief”

      Why? Do you understand how the Nazi Government worked? Underlings were given tasks and given the freedom to finish those tasks. You can also toss in the fact that there were multiple rivalries (in fact, this was encouraged) and you can see why different locales used different methods. Globocnick and Hoess were rivals, they wanted to take credit for what they were doing and didn’t want to share glory.

      “Respectfully I’ll have to decline your offer. I have far too much on my plate at the mo and can’t dedicate the time to a trench warfare of words.”

      That’s too bad. I think your education in this subject is sorely lacking. I’m trying to help you but this method isn’t the best.

      “Also do you believe that it is necessary to imprison people who don’t believe in Nazi gas chambers?”

      Is that all there is? Why is this relevant?
      I disagree with HD laws but legal issues are irrelevant to the history involved.

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  1. I have read books by the official Holocaust industry and by revisionists. I noticed some obvious discrepancies in the official story books. Holocaust arithmetic as to actual numbers of decedents never adds up correctly. Just saying.

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    1. Hi there,
      I follow quite a few Google news alerts on this topic. One of the things I find interesting that the term “Holocaust survivor” is the most active one. Everyday there are a few alerts, there seems to be an awful lot of survivors visiting schools and speaking at events etc and when you look at their ages it would make them quite young children during the holocaust. Aren’t we lead to believe that any Jew under 13/14 were sent immediately to the “Gas Chambers”?

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